The Next Ghosst
Nov 17 2006, 01:24 PM
I have a few forests on my property and sometimes I play paintball in them, would it be a good idea to use real vegetation from the forest as gun camo? I shoot a Tippmann Custom Pro.
The forest has some spruce trees, and lots of pine and fir trees. The trees are tight together in some places so thats where this rifle rag/gun camo would be used normally
There's a problem though...I don't know if its good to have vegetation on your gun for prolonged periods of time, it would likely have to go in my garage, cause mom would kill me. But is it a good idea to use small branches of fir and pine needles as gun camo? I would also have jute to fasten it, and there is enough to cover a hopper easily.
Like I said before, this would likely make a mess since the needles would drop throughout the house...but It would be awesome camo I think.
Think that this is a good idea? If not please post or PM me any other suggestions.
Steed
Nov 17 2006, 01:30 PM
I know its good to put into your ghillie but your marker? I think it would get in the way, unless its grass or something not sticky (wood)?
The Next Ghosst
Nov 17 2006, 01:49 PM
Yeah, I'd likely use spruce "leaves" and bunches of pine, fir needles...I should just go to the dollar store shouldn't I?
StealingYerMail
Nov 17 2006, 01:55 PM
Um... wouldn't it like rot and need replacing at often intervals?
The Next Ghosst
Nov 17 2006, 01:59 PM
Yeah...I was just going to make it for a game or 2 but, it would make more sense to go to the dollar store and get some craft leaves there, and go to Wal-Mart for some Camo patterns
French
Nov 17 2006, 08:29 PM
hey ghosst what kind of tree do you have on your property i mit be able to help becauze i use to live in quebec and i was surondeb by beech tree and that would work to cover your gun
Schoony
Nov 18 2006, 06:27 AM
If I were you, I would just put netting on your gun so you can add vegetation to it, and then when your done, just remove it. Keeps your house clean and keeps your camo up-to-date and not dead and dying.
YAPPER
Nov 18 2006, 07:36 PM
I agree with Schoony. I use netting on my gun then put things in it and take it out when your done. That way your camo will match your feild exactly, because it will be part of the feild, not the dollar store.
Tenacious221
Nov 18 2006, 07:47 PM
You know what would be awesome?
Chia Pet barrels

Thats the best idea I've ever had...
Copyright Tenacious221 2006
-Tenacious
Blk-Knight
Nov 20 2006, 05:36 AM
I am trying a similar thing except I am experimenting more with my hopper. Hopper are cheap to replace if they get ruined by this experiment, markers however are not.
I say try it on your hopper and keep it on for about 2 weeks before you decide to put it on your gun (or get a new hopper).
The Next Ghosst
Nov 20 2006, 12:50 PM
QUOTE(QC MAD KID @ Nov 17 2006, 10:29 PM)

hey ghosst what kind of tree do you have on your property i mit be able to help becauze i use to live in quebec and i was surondeb by beech tree and that would work to cover your gun
There's pine, spruce, maple (not a lot) and tons of cedar trees in the forest. Its only big enough for 1 on 1 but its great for practice and shooting my bros
tacsnipa
Nov 20 2006, 01:19 PM
Yes, just keep in mine grass turns brown is a few hours and tree limbs last almost a day. When you put it on the gun you put it horozontal so it doesn't get in the way but still breaks up the outline.
Jaron
Nov 20 2006, 01:21 PM
Most actual snipers "dress" their ghillie with the local flora when going out to better blend in. Afterward it gets removed. Schooney has the right idea, if you want to take a little extra time and dress your marker, go ahead. Just take care on how to do it so nothing gets jammed or gunked up. It also might make handling and aiming the marker a little more difficult.
The Next Ghosst
Nov 20 2006, 02:28 PM
Yeah, hopefully it doesn't get in my gun because of the open-bolt blow back system on it...that would be a problem
Haunted Hunter
Nov 20 2006, 05:19 PM
I just rip up the camo bandanas to camo my gun and hopper. I rip some tears in it and let it hang off at different angles so it looks like leaves. For the barrel, gots a needle/thread and sewed a small tube that slides right over the barrel, with strips hanging down to disguise it's shape. It's washable too.
tigerforce
Nov 20 2006, 06:23 PM
Being this is the Christmas Season you will be able to find GREEN garland anywhere and for cheap. This stuff is perfect for evergreen forest environments, and it attaches the same as a rifle wrap.
You should be able to buy enough in one package to do your marker and apply some to yourself.
GOD bless,
TF
Lt. Head-Shot
Nov 22 2006, 07:18 PM
the only real prblem is that you would have to take oof the veg whenever it died - that could take alot of time - i agree thats it would be better to get netting and then add leaves
French
Nov 24 2006, 05:34 PM
spruce pine cedar stay longer a live green and they are easy to move around with some camo tape or string of matching color mite do the trick
Monoxide
Nov 27 2006, 02:31 PM
Again, as I said in the other "gun camo" thread, natural vegetation can never be beaten for camouflage. Heres an example of my gun decked out with natural vegetation. [Keep in mind i dont have my ghillie suit zipped up or the hood up.]
gamer
Dec 1 2006, 06:18 PM
"Vegging out" is cheap and is obviously the best camo you can ever wear as you are wearing your environment. Modern military snipers who stalk in foliage "veg out" their ghillie suits for this reason.
Here is my old veg rig

Now, I love the effectiveness of vegging out. It can make you invisible, no doubts there. I hate applying it tho EVERY weekend. The vegitation would not last a week before rotting, shrinking, drying up and becoming in-effective. For this reason I switched to Action Ghillie. Here is my current rig:

Way less maintainence, and great concealment. Super light and super durable, and I can even wash it if it gets musty. It was fairly cheap and works great for my light ghillie rig. Its way cooler than burlap or jute thread, and doesnt shed at all. Id suggest using the Action Ghillie.
bob the warrior
Jan 13 2007, 01:27 PM
id do it... sounds like a good idea. ive done it once... i tied vines around my gun ... worked well in my opinion as we layed there for an hr tryin 2 find each other...
Warpaint
Jan 13 2007, 03:09 PM
Drape your marker with the same netting that is used for bushrag ghillies or a sniper veil. Snipers drape the bushrag over their markers, then improvise by weaving locally acquired vegetation into it. A sniper veil is another option, but the netting is softer and the weave is tighter, so it's a little more complicated to improvise, but still functions well. Discard the vegetation after you're done with it for the day.
Wes Desto
Jan 14 2007, 07:35 AM
Get Phlock. its stuff people use for making sets on trains and battle field sets.
It come in lots of colors and glues on easy, and doesnt come off.
Aurora Knight
Jan 14 2007, 04:36 PM
QUOTE(Tenacious221 @ Nov 18 2006, 07:47 PM)

You know what would be awesome?
Chia Pet barrels

Thats the best idea I've ever had...
Copyright Tenacious221 2006
-Tenacious
OMFG. Dude, I think I may have an idea *runs to basement* I got it!
I used double sided take with some old beaver fur I had... Beaver fur wrapped around the barrel...UBER CAMO.....
Wow....wtf this is ridiculously simple....
~Aurora knight
Sniper Joe
Feb 2 2007, 06:34 PM
Putting real vegitatuon on your marker would make it stick out more because its covred in fore ground material. Fore ground material sticks out, so you should try to make your marker be more like back ground witch blends in because it is not a specific item.
cpt_crunch
Feb 4 2007, 01:39 PM
use the fake stuff and stick some real stuff in it for more looks.
X_KAM1KAM3_X
Feb 4 2007, 01:43 PM
You should use a lot of fake stuff but add some real stuff to add color, but don't go crazy with real stuff because fake stuff now days is almost as good as real stuff. Almost as real.
Dermeister
Feb 10 2007, 06:17 PM
yeah if you have a mesh ghille, when you get to the field, and gather a lot of natural vegitation. lay your ghille out (or have someone else you know wear it!!) then just start adding stuff in. It works sooo good because its what your gonna be in, so why not have it on you.
loiselle
Feb 10 2007, 07:19 PM
i just add ''fresh'' grass on my gun each time i play and remove it after and it work great for camo...always have the good colors....it take me like 15 minutes to make it right but it really worth it
Monoxide
Mar 31 2007, 03:25 PM
QUOTE(Sniper Joe @ Feb 2 2007, 07:34 PM)

Putting real vegitatuon on your marker would make it stick out more because its covred in fore ground material. Fore ground material sticks out, so you should try to make your marker be more like back ground witch blends in because it is not a specific item.
Not sure, but you might be full of it.
Slivers
Apr 2 2007, 09:06 PM
I don't go for it. A military sniper who's not going to be moving for awhile, or a hardcore ambush sniper, sure. Not a versatile paintball sniper though.
The reason is motion. The human eye will identify objects like a branch or some flowers etc. When you move, your brain is told: "Hey, that tree just moved!" Great if you're not moving.
A sniper on the move is better served with a setup which the human eye will mistake for a clump of grass one moment, a shadow the next, a fallen branch the moment after. As you move, you are all of the above and the eye has more difficulty picking you up.
Ammo
Apr 2 2007, 09:39 PM
I guess it just comes down to how much work you want to put into making your camo. If you, like it has been said, are willing to re-do your camo every time you play..........then go ahead. I think local vegitation would hide a person better than anything. Otherwise just stick with 3D camo of some sort and use your head when finding spots to hide and you'll be fine.
drumboy
Apr 2 2007, 09:48 PM
That's tuff... I don't think so.
rifleman92
Apr 7 2007, 09:19 PM
After awhile it would turn brown and die, but i guess it would be an exact match
Terriss
Apr 9 2007, 09:41 AM
I have a few rubber bands that I wrap around my hopper, and I shove some ferns and sticks and stuff in that. You're thinking of a more permanent thing, which would rot after about three days. The real vegetation works though, if thats what you're wondering.
Explosive
Jul 19 2008, 07:52 AM
QUOTE(The Next Ghosst @ Nov 17 2006, 04:24 PM)

I have a few forests on my property and sometimes I play paintball in them, would it be a good idea to use real vegetation from the forest as gun camo?
There's a problem though...I don't know if its good to have vegetation on your gun for prolonged periods of time, it would likely have to go in my garage, cause mom would kill me. But is it a good idea to use small branches of fir and pine needles as gun camo? I would also have jute to fasten it, and there is enough to cover a hopper easily.
Like I said before, this would likely make a mess since the needles would drop throughout the house...but It would be awesome camo I think.
Think that this is a good idea? If not please post or PM me any other suggestions.
In the Army I used pine needles as camo on my rifle, because where we were the ground was covered with them and I was in prone a lot.
It helped my rifle dissapear. I kept all vegetation away from moving areas, or the barrel etc for obvious reasons. I only left the needles on there for 2 days though.
Yes natural vegetation works well. Don't go over board with it or make it to where your gun, rifle, marker whatever is awkward to handle, use, sight etc.
A little goes ALONG WAY. Honestly I like camouflage paint and then some camo material, tape, camo netting etc. used here and there in small amounts on my marker.
Just enough to break up the shape a little.
I painted (duracoat digital marpat colors) an Flatline A5 a year or so back (photos of it are on these forums). I decided to sell it, so when I was at the field I placed it against a tree at the edge of the woods. Then I walked 10 feet away, turned around with the camera to take a photo and it actually took me a few seconds to relocate
where I set the marker down. Simple camo paintjob can work wonders for concealing your marker and keep it clean and free for function and usage.
mrfranswa
Jul 19 2008, 08:43 PM
yes, natural vegetation is the best cammo, but you hafeta change it ever 8 hrs, and you probably will never be in a situation where it is better than just painting your marker flat black or olive. Remember, everyone is wearing foggy masks this time of year.
Heck, my marker is eggshell on the carrying handle, and as long as I hold it behind a bush, or when I am prone in plain sight, I simply cover it up with underbrush. I guess I am just too lazy to repaint it
Woodsball Freak
Jul 19 2008, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(mrfranswa @ Jul 19 2008, 08:43 PM)

yes, natural vegetation is the best cammo, but you hafeta change it ever 8 hrs, and you probably will never be in a situation where it is better than just painting your marker flat black or olive.
Remember, everyone is wearing foggy masks this time of year.Heck, my marker is eggshell on the carrying handle, and as long as I hold it behind a bush, or when I am prone in plain sight, I simply cover it up with underbrush. I guess I am just too lazy to repaint it

Not any more, maybe in the '90s.
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